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“Idiocracy”, here we come.


More like here we are


Getting older for me (66) just means more memories. And I really want to go back, but I can't.


Just a few years younger than you are. I can relate. I guess people could accuse us of being nostalgic for a time that never really existed, and maybe to some extent that's true, but on the other hand I do genuinely think that we've gone off into a very bad timeline. Just compare Jimmy Carter to Donald Trump, for example. Like what the hell happened?


Social media happened


Everyone thinks the Tesla vandalism is hurting Elon Musk, but it is the insurance companies that will pay. And I am certain that auto insurance rates will be increasing substantially for everyone in the very near future.


For everyone who owns a Tesla


You assume insurance company will not exploit this issue to raise insurance prices for everybody.

Insurance companies aren't really the most ethical category of businesses.


Isn’t this the way regulated utilities work?


It's the way investor-owned regulated utilities work. Municipal utilities are also regulated but don't have investors to pay.


Muni utilities get treated with kid's gloves by courts though. I have direct personal experience of a muni burning nearly a quarter million acres, destroying over 500 homes and ~100K acres of timber. When it came to trial, the court capped their liability at $50m on day one. Their employees even joked about what an outrageous fire hazard all their lines were over text just a few days before it happened.

The funniest part is the utility increased rates...but only for people living in the fire-affected areas.


> Municipal utilities are also regulated but don't have investors to pay

Somebody has to pay.


No? Privately owned utilities with guaranteed return rates will charge more to guarantee those return rates. A publicly owned utility would be fine operating at 0% returns.


> A publicly owned utility would be fine operating at 0% returns.

A publicly owned utility running at 0% returns wouldn't be able to pay interest on the debt it would have to issue to make capital investments.


Why not? The only reasonable 0% target for public agencies would be net of expenses, including cost of capital.


Not always.

A public utility has little incentive to be efficient as like you said, they are fine with 0% returns.

If a private utility gets a rate of $1.00 on $0.94 of expenses, it has an incentive to further reduce costs to increase the return, which reduces future rate growth (as higher rates won’t be approved).


>as higher rates won’t be approved

Won't they, though? It seems like a rubberstamping process at this point.


Studies show the opposite is true. Nobody gets voted out of the municipal rate board for denying rate approvals and allowing maintenance and capital investment to fall by the wayside. It's one reason U.S. infrastructure is in such terrible shape.


CPUC members in California aren’t voted in, they are nominated by the Governor.

So CA is a unique situation where the regulator effectively controls the public utility so calling it “private” is a bit of a stretch. More like a state controlled entity that trades on the stock market.


If you’re talking about California utilities the rate decisions are all on the CPUC website.

Rate increases absolutely aren’t rubber stamped, the CPUC routinely denies expenditures and the comedians rate increases.

But speaking more of the hypothetical, if set up correctly a regulated private utility could be incentivized to reduce costs to capture a higher profit at the same rate.


Investor owned utilities have more access to capital. The credit union / non-profit / co-op / municipal alternative is not an automatic win for customers.


Might have more access to more capital. And they're not very incentivized to use it. There's no competition.


Someone has to pay, but there's no requirement that someone gets to take a percentage as profit.


Where do you think a rinky-dink municipality gets the money to pay for infrastructure? They turn to capital markets, who will make a profit on the bonds or whatever.


They also don't build transformers in-house; they pay vendors for providing goods and services. Why do you think capital is any different from other services? If a private utility issues a bond, investors in the bond will also make a profit on the bond in addition to investors in the private utility making a profit on the utility.


Where does an investor owned utility get the money to pay for infrastructure? Because they're generally not cutting into profits to fund infrastructure improvements.

PG&E is paying 2.4 billion dollars a year in interest expense (at least in 2023), so it's fair to wonder if that's really any better.


They "pay" their customers. Which makes your comment silly.


> Municipal utilities are also regulated but don't have investors to pay.

They also don't keep your 401k healthy.


JPMorgan is responsible for that, not the private run utility.



$20M a year savings? They could save a lot more by stepping up enforcement against fare evasion.


Supposedly everyone is selling their Teslas, yet there are very few great Tesla bargains on the used car markets. I smell BS.


I was a really poor manager. I hated every minute of it.


What did you learn out of the experience?


This just tells you who is most likely to be caught.


I didn’t realize Musk has two left feet.


Wait - wouldn't it be the draft avoider with weird feet?


Why is that bad?


You are about to find out.


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