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You don’t see a difference between an organization and an individual?

Not in this instance. People don't stop being people when they join an organization. If we can recognize that getting ignored, suppressed, or met with hostility "discourages people from posting", why can't we recognize that it can also discourage organizations from posting?

Welcome to HN where users with little domain knowledge make comments of utter certainty about any topic under the sun.


Moral high ground? They lost it long ago when they were hanging people for being gay and sponsoring terrorist groups.

First thing is something US wants to do and they've done the other a lot.

Now imagine how the international community feels about the toll - “sure would be nice if Iran’s leadership was replaced so we don’t have to pay a toll for an international waterway”.

The whole situation further isolates Iran globally (they were already isolated before the war).


Now imagine how the international community feels about the US starting a war of aggression against Iran without even consulting with its allies and trading partners beforehand.

The whole situation further isolates the US globally (they were already isolated before the war due to threats of taking Greenland, making Canada the 51st state, leaving NATO, etc.).


How do you know allies and trading partners weren’t consulted? Of course they were! The US had to get overflight permission the first day.

Iran had long been a thorn in the side of Europe and the Middle East countries. There is no love lost if the US decides to attack Iran. Most US allies would welcome deposing the current Iranian regime.

The US is anything but isolated. Notice how happy Europe is now that the US is bankrolling the Ukraine war?

Don’t confuse public statements intended for local consumption with what’s happening behind the scenes. Countries will happily talk tough to keep their own people happy all the while partnering behind the scenes.



> Notice how happy Europe is now that the US is bankrolling the Ukraine war?

The US is not currently bankrolling Ukraine in the way it was in 2022–2024. Under Donald Trump, no new large aid packages have been approved, and support now largely consists of delivering previously authorised funds and equipment.


That’s a funny way of saying the US is still bankrolling the Ukraine war.

It just isn't though.

Why, despite the facts being as clear as crystal, do you insist on lying?



Would you say “if one country is the largest individual donor, then its bankrolling it”

I would


mopsi provided a link to data. Please at least look at it before making unsubstantiated statements. It clearly shows that the US has not contributed since the beginning of 2025, let alone 'bankrolled' it.

> so we don’t have to pay a toll for an international waterway

I don't think it was international. I think it was 50% Iran's and 50% Oman's.


This is in no way a win for Iran.

Hundreds of regime leadership is gone. Massive destruction of infrastructure. Bombed all their neighbors who weren’t even at war with them. Pushed those same neighbors into closer partnership with Israel and the US.

Now the regime is severely weakened.


None of those things matter if they survive and control the straight, which seems to be the situation. The toll revenue will be enough to rebuild several times over. They have proven that they can absolutely crush the gulf states with missiles and drones.

I think the fact that Trump accepted their 10-point plan as the basis for negotiation, instead of them accepting the American 15-point plan, makes it obvious this is America taking the loss.


That’s a whole lot of “ifs”.

And they haven’t come close to “crushing the gulf states”. Lobbing a middle at the oil facility is not “crushing”, it’s harassment. If anything the gulf states have decided to not retaliate themselves, but if they did it would be even worse for Iran.

Trump did not “accept” the 10 point plan. Not even close. It’s simply a list of demands from Iran, nobody has agreed to anything.


Real world events are conditional. Would you prefer I talk in absolutes?

Defacto Iran still controls the strait, as they have since the start of the war. If they start letting the ships through with no toll, I think that would indicate a tactical loss but strategic draw for Iran (well, the IRGC). If they don’t, it’s a strategic win. We’ll find out I guess.

The small gulf states are incredibly fragile because of their water supply. Major disruption to their power or desalinisation directly renders them largely uninhabitable.

You’re misquoting me on the 10 point plan. He accepted it as the _basis for negotiation_. Here’s direct quote from him on Truth Social:

“We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate”


Lining up multiple low probability events and talking like it’s certainty isn’t that helpful to understanding the conflict.

Iran does not “control” the strait any more than neighbor controls my front door because he threatened to stop me from using it. If the US or other naval power tried to pass it would have no issue.

Have you noticed when the Houthis did the same thing (fire on ships) last year the tone was very different? Many people noticed.

Accepting something as a “basis for negotiation” means nothing. During the Korean War the US accepted a term forcing them to leave the Korean Peninsula when peace talks started and last I checked the US is still there.


> Iran does not “control” the strait any more than neighbor controls my front door because he threatened to stop me from using it. If the US or other naval power tried to pass it would have no issue

If your neighbour threatened to shoot anyone attempting to use your front door, and followed through on their threat a few times, and now no one uses your front door, I would say they control it.

Al Jazeera are reporting that Iran is planning to continue with the toll: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/8/us-iran-ceasefire-de...

Your assessment of the military situation in the strait doesn’t align with any expert analysis I’ve come across.


Well the “expert” analysis you mentioned said the world would grind to a halt last month but that didn’t happen did it?

India and Pakistan have been running the “closure” several times with escorts, successfully. All it would take a is a naval coalition of 3-4 countries and the strait is effectively open - and no toll.

Iran is in a far worse position now than it was a month ago (and it was in a bad position back then). It’s a matter of time before Iran is no longer able to project any force in the gulf. And all the countries in the Middle East will be happy it happened.


Trump’s talking about a “joint venture” with Iran for charging tolls, weird that he feels that might have to make this concession, right?

https://x.com/jonkarl/status/2041839012097229086?s=20

He’s mentioned this possibility before, by the way.


We’re 5 years into Trump being President and you still take what he says at face value?

Most of what he says is to rile up the people opposing him.


This would make sense if the regime command structure had apparently not designed itself for this exact type of conflict.

They were in a fight, took losses, and made significant gains.

They proved their planning was correct, that the distributed nature of their power grid was correct, that they are able to project force and genuinely destabilize the strait.

Things have been proven that were previously uncertain, and they have not been proven in America’s favour.

Crucially America’s ability to defend its allies was tested and found wanting. The entire conflict was of unit economics, in that a cheap 30k drone beat out billion dollar investments.

America also spent the better part of this administration alienating themselves from the one allied nation with extensive drone combat experience.


Admittedly, this is the interesting part. Ukraine via its leader apparently did try to reach US in exchange for money, but, and there stories get confused, was ignored. I have to wonder if Trump has some actual fixed winners table in his mind ( because he does not seem to follow the most optimal path ).

That seems like a great way to open your company up to a discrimination lawsuit (whether warranted or not). Not to mention the costs of hiring a new employee you only fire a month later - why bother?

Sounds like HR mythology.


> It seems we are treating Peptides like drugs here

That’s exactly what some biological drugs are too - peptides!

And peptides are just short chains of amino acids. Almost all the other biological drugs are just longer chains of amino acids - antibodies, enzymes, antigens, some hormones, and others.

Derek is right that the safety risks are exponentially higher when you inject peptides - you basically skip a bunch of protective mechanisms like enzymes that quickly break them down if taken orally or routes.

As a former R&D scientist there is no way I’d inject any peptide that hasn’t at least gone through a phase 1 safety study in humans. Otherwise you have no idea what it could be doing to your body.

A good example was a drug that was quickly pulled from market for causing fatal anaphylactic reactions. It wasn’t even caught in the clinical trials!

At the same time, I think people have the right to take whatever substance they want. But I worry a lot of people aren’t aware of the risks.


>As a former R&D scientist there is no way I’d inject any peptide that hasn’t at least gone through a phase 1 safety study in humans. Otherwise you have no idea what it could be doing to your body.

A lot of people do not understand the trial system or the value of Phase 0/1 tests when it comes to the substances that they put into their body. And thanks to the influencer/grifter/biohacker ecosystem that exists, more people would put their trust in accidental evidence, from people who's incentive it is to make money off of them, while complaining about the pharmaceutical industry operates off of a profit motive.


Yeah, but my mum is an eye surgeon and she wouldn't get LASIK. That's just how it is with people involved in the field.

Why? Because gold bugs caused a gold bubble?

Debt spiral

How does sacrificing America's lead make American oligarchs richer? That doesn't even make sense.

It does, it's textbook "banana republic". Dictator and close circles enrich themselves, everyone else gets poorer.

US voters were so worried that South America would come to them, that they have become the worst of South America.


Well we know the US doesn't have a dictator, so that's not a good example.

This all sounds incredibly hand wavey "oh, they just do things that benefit themselves but tank the US economy".

From what I've seen all the oligarchs in the US got rich when the economy was doing well.

Do you have a specific example of someone who got rich by "tanking the US economy"?


> we know the US doesn't have a dictator

Even most dictatorships don't "have a dictator". They have a "great leader" that coincidentally gets voted in again and again, for whom constitutions are amended, and who happens to have his own "revolutionary" irregular militias, not-so-secret police grabbing people on the streets in plainclothes (or worse), a subservient parliament rubber-stamping decrees, etc etc.

Even without some of that, the "unitary executive" theory, as implemented by George W. Bush and Donald J. Trump, is effectively a temporary dictatorship in all but name.

> all the oligarchs in the US got rich when the economy was doing well.

You can make bank when things go bad. Look up the European currency crisis of the 90s, when folks like Soros amassed their billions. Or the few who got 2008 right.

Whoever is betting with incredible timing on Trump's unexpected policy shifts, every other week, is definitely not getting poorer. And when the economy tanks, assets get cheap - which is great if you have accumulated cash.


No, actually those countries do call them dictators - I’m not aware of any similar to what you’ve described.

A very few select oligarchs got rich during the European currency crisis - and anybody oligarchs got hammered.

How do the oligarchs decide? Do they meet in secret?


basically make decisions that make no sense but benefit you financially. Sample. you run a printing business. you dont own it just run it. you sell your main printer and assign a performance bonus to your self. next month your business is closed because you dont have equipment to print, but you also have your bonus in pocket.

just like stock trader, you can get rich from going long, you also can get rich by shorting the economy (selling short).

this is what trump is doing: selling America short


As an analogy, you can pump the yield of your crop fields by 50% if you are willing to deplete the soil and cash in on 100 years of careful building of the topsoil layer. The person doing it wins out in the short term 10 years, but society loses out long-term when they gotta spend another 100 years of much lower yields to build the top soil back up to healthy levels. Meanwhile the 10 year guy already made his money and sold off whats dregs are left to seek the next snatch and grab operation.

Look at post-USSR Russia

Not really. It has more to do with gold is now worth almost 3x what it was 2 years ago.

And before you get too excited, this "news" from the World Gold Council. A consortium of gold mining corporations. Clearly it's a pump article "have you bought gold yet? everyone else is! why not you!?!?"


Not really. It has more to do with gold is now worth almost 3x what it was 2 years ago.

It's not like we've suddenly found new and exciting uses for gold though. The reason the price has gone up is because the demand for it has gone up, and the reason why demand has gone up is because people want an alternative to U.S bonds. A bunch of pump articles wouldn't be enough to lead to a 3x price increase.


> the reason why demand has gone up is because people want an alternative to U.S bonds

That makes no sense since the amount held in US bonds is not that different.

The only change is that the gold that people held has gone up in value.

It's not different than holding Google and Apple stock, and when Apple stock goes up people say "oh, it's because people don't want Google stock". That's not true at all.


> It has more to do with gold is now worth almost 3x what it was 2 years ago.

And why is it worth 3x?

But S&P500 is not?


SP500 is linked to profits. Gold is purely speculative.

Are you saying that the USA is doing just great and there is nothing for anyone to worry about?

Are you saying that the price of gold just spontaneously went up?

From over hear it seems like the age of Pax Americana is over, and gold at ~$4,600 is one of the results.


No, but it was due for a correction for a while now. That correction has sparked extra speculation because everything is gambling now.

Ofc those with an incentive of higher priced gold will tell to buy gold. Only time will tell if they were right.


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