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A bit of a feeling of "so what" here. Maybe he's less trustworthy than some. We have people of X trustworthiness running the government, crypto exchanges, a certain space exploration and satellite company, social media companies, and so on. We know their trustworthiness. Isn't the real issue how to cope?

What's the point of living in an advanced society if you just sit around watching it decay around you? Our ancestors fought for our indifference today, and with attitudes like yours we'll watch our children fight for it again tomorrow.

What's your proposal? We knew he's as trustworthy as the others, and it sounds like you agree. What are you doing about them? Legally or illegally?

Mostly we don't need 3,000 words on how untrustworthy he is. We could use 3,000 words on how to remove his influence.


Your point is that it's ok he's untrustworthy because lots of people in power are?

> Your point is that it's ok he's untrustworthy because lots of people in power are?

It's...weirdly a valid question. If Sam fibs as much as the next guy, we don't have a Sam problem. Focussing on him alon is, best case, a waste of resources. Worst case, it's distracting from real evil. If, on the other hand, as this reporting suggests, Sam is an outlier, then focussing on him does make sense.


No, it's that the entire ecosystem is rotten to the core, and it actively selects, rewards, and protects flawed personality types.

And when you're dealing with a potential existential threat, this is an existential problem.


I don't disagree, but at some point, I think people need to understand we're dealing with laws of nature here. I mean just look at human history, this has been a problem since the dawn of civilization...

I think if you truly understand social contract theory, how hierarchies are formed, and political theory, you'll realize that oligarchies tend to be nature's equilibrium point for setting social disputes, and all forms of governments regardless of whatever they claim to be, naturally devolve towards them as they tend to represent the highest social entropy (ie equilibrium) state. That's not to say you can't have or move further away from that point and towards another (supposed ideal) form of government, you absolutely can, but it takes work. Perpetual work - of which no set of "rules" can remedy people of having to do in order to sustain it.

The problem however, is most people get complacent. They eventually tire of that work, or are ignorant, and by doing so create a power vacuum which allows things slide back towards that state.

As so, people must decide for themselves one of several possible avenues to pursue:

#1 - Try to convince others (the masses) to join and work together to take power from the few, back to them

#2 - Find a way to join the ranks of the elite few (which thanks to the prisoner's dilemma, unscrupulous means tends to perform better in the short term, even if at the cost of the long term. And if the elite is already corrupt, well, cooperating with it works well)

#3 - Settle for their lot in life

Unfortunately #1 is such a difficult proposition given it requires winning agreement among many whilst many often decide to remain in camp #3 (for complacency/ignorance reasons). And #2 is often easier done without moral integrity, especially at the behest of those in camp #3 whose behavior only helps enable these realities. Thus, is why I think the "ecosystem" as you say, will always tend towards this way - where society tends towards being controlled by an elite few who are rotten.

Robert Michel's realized this and dubbed it the Iron Law of Oligarchy and embraced his own version of #2 for himself. Although, he came to this conclusion through his own observations and reasoning, rather than through historical political theory.


Not sure where I said it's OK? Please point it out.

We have to deal with it. Or are you suggesting we should purchase a controlling interest and vote him off the board?


Well, by that logic, drones must not fly at all. Unless you say that a grenade over your own head must also be disallowed.

Isn’t it already prohibited to fly a drone over my head, unless it’s in the sub 250 gram category.

I doubt it, how does anyone know where your head is? Anyway, sounds like no new law is needed.

Here you go, says it right here:

You must never fly over a person.

And that you need a permit to fly within 30m of people without their consent and within 15m with their consent.

I believe the US regs are the same.

https://www.casa.gov.au/drones/flight-authorisations/flying-...


xAI's data centers in space (should they happen) will push the frontier of war firmly overhead too.

Satellite -> satellite warfare already happens, and may have even been the the cause of a Starlink satellite "exploding" the other day.

Hey now, we had space stations with cannons in what, the 70s?

To the parent poster's point.

It's not, unless you think part of the definition of "worth their salt" is never working for a company with bad resource allocation. And I don't see why it would be.

A six-hour disruption to OpenAI would bring down the economy if the jobs are replaced by AI. Maybe Grok runs in orbit, but in that case needs a space security force or massive payola scheme to keep from being disrupted by China or Russia.

VCs steer their portfolio companies to buy from each other. They can even steer some to buy from a certain one to juice revenue from that certain one for a higher valuation, at a great multiplier of the money they'll lose on the purchasers.

This sounds sort of the same: "Look at the growth in Grok as of the IPO time!"


Any country is at risk of hostile takeover by conquest-loving parties, so there is unfortunately a need for arms parity to some degree. It takes only a generation to flip the table.

This is what happens when you elevate faith over reason. Let's get a flat-earth promoter as FAA head.

He could easily state that some disaster was from god and that providing relief contradict god's will.


Unwavering allegiance to the current head of state seems to be the only technical qualification required for one party in the US. Being thoroughly mentally unfit or profoundly incapable of functioning in the role you’re being paid for seems to be a little consequence now.

Which leads us to a FEMA director in charge of disaster response for the country believing that he was “teleported” not to the moon or some cool spaceship. But to a goddamn Waffle House (against his will).


It's generally accepted to claim belief in any number of Gods in polite company. I'm never quite clear on where the line is supposed to be.

At least they could make landing on a flat, non-spherical surface would be much easier, I guess.

Every developer at Oracle knows that if their manager can replace them, they're gone. Every manager should realize that if their director can delete them, they will. Every director knows that if their senior director can remove them, they will. Only the board members and statutory officers are safe, everyone else that can be replaced by AI will be.

Statutory Officer? What's that and how do i become one?

The law requires corporations to have certain officers like a president. Oracle can't just fire their president and eliminate the position. They can still fire their president, but then they have to stick someone else into the slot. If I were Oracle's president, that requirement wouldn't make me feel any safer.

And their relationship with science is... anything but their own commercial interest?

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