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IANAL but I would be scared of getting sued. For example, if I try to give a perfectly good car seat to good will they refuse to take it for liability reasons. Baby safety is serious business.


Yeah it's an interesting project but it seems there should be lower stakes use cases that should be tried first.


> Baby safety is serious business.

Are "regular" baby monitors any more complicated than a dumbed down cheapest you can build it walkie-talkie? Society really needs to stop wanting other people to be responsible for their actions. The choice of what devices you use on your kids should first and foremost be on you. AI or no AI. Fear mongering with literal "someone think of the kids" is getting old, IMO.


I don't agree this is a "think of the children" issue. Nobody is saying "don't use this on your kids" they're saying "understand if by sharing this you might be exposing yourself to potential financial consequences." Baby safety is serious business.

* Summer Infant Baby Monitor Overheating Settlement – $10 million after reports of overheating monitors leading to fire hazards.

* Angelcare Monitor Recall Lawsuit – $7 million settlement due to defective cord placement that led to strangulation risks.

* Levana Baby Monitor Overheating Lawsuit – $5.5 million awarded in cases of monitors causing burns to children.

* VTech Baby Monitor Battery Defect Settlement – $6.2 million after reports of exploding batteries causing fire risks.

* Motorola Baby Monitor Signal Failure Class Action – $4.8 million settlement after claims of poor signal reception leading to missed emergencies.

* Owlet Smart Sock Monitor Lawsuit – $6.5 million awarded due to inaccurate heart rate readings that caused false alarms and panic among parents.

* Graco Digital Monitor Lawsuit – $5 million settlement after a lawsuit citing defective monitors that stopped functioning during critical moments.

* Philips Avent Baby Monitor Lawsuit – $4.2 million after several reports of overheating and potential fire hazards.

* Samsung Baby Monitor Fire Hazard Settlement – $3.5 million awarded due to incidents of overheating leading to home fires.

* Infant Optics Monitor Class Action – $4 million settlement after claims of faulty batteries and wiring causing sudden shutdowns during use.

https://www.personalinjurysandiego.org/product-liability/saf...


I looked for primary sources on two randomly selected ones there, the VTech Baby Monitor Battery Defect Settlement and the Motorola Baby and I didn't find anything. Only the linked site. I feel like GPT just invented those lawsuits.

Just checked Infant Optics Monitor Class Action and also didn't find anything.


Shoot, you're totally right. Horrifying. I should know better by now not to let my guard down like that.


He's not selling a product, he's sharing a library which includes his terms and conditions.


He would need to fire at least 30% of the staff to make a difference. You can't fix the rot that started with the McDonald Douglas purchase by changing one person.


I struggle to conceive of the sheer number of working professionals in our global economy right now that have received an irreversible taint from the corporate piracy era. This is going to take a couple generations to fully go away I suspect, and of course that assumes that it ever does since unqualified MBA holders are still being hired and still running profitable enterprises into the fucking ground left and right.


* McDonnell Douglas


I prefer McDonald Douglas, after all it is a clown show.


It’s more accurate than reality itself.


If you look carefully you see that they actually started with a much bigger drone and then shrunk it down. The minimum is 9 mg (that they could build) but it sounds like the design can be expanded to almost any size. A more obvious question would be is there any functional difference between this and a balloon.


Each pilot can have a button they must always press, if both are released loud tritones alarms and flashing will fill the cockpit, something no one can sleep to.


Well... You can. Sleep deprivation is one hell of a drug. After ~23h on a plane without sleep, I slept through a fire alarm at a hotel. It's unlikely that both pilots and other staff would ignore it, but "no one can sleep to" threshold is not that low.


Have the alarm go off in the cabin as well.


That doesn't work at all. There are often times like takeoff, landing, dealing with adverse weather events, re-routing, mechanical failure, etc where they're going through a detailed checklist. The last thing you want is some random device that takes attention away from them dealing with a serious problem.


That's not impossible, but the pilots' limbs are already largely "spoken for" by other controls and tasks, so it would be a harsh tradeoff.


If other controls are being actively engaged by the pilot, the need for the button press would be delayed only until there's some continuous period of non-engagement.


Exactly - something like positive activation every minute of some control or another or it starts hooting.


Sorry but this a bit ill-informed.

First off, you cannot just put an alarm on everything. The sonic experience inside a cockpit is very carefully designed to give pilots the correct information at the correct time. False alarms are not only not appreciated, they are actively dangerous. If a flight experiencing an emergency situation, a blaring alarm that is incorrectly going off can prevent pilots from getting timely information.

Airbus have side-sticks (like a game controller), not yokes and you really shouldn’t be inputting on them unless you’re hand flying for whatever reason.

In all two-pilot aircraft (all commercial jet aircraft), there are two separate roles that each one assumes: Pilot Monitoring (PM) and Pilot Flying (PF). The PM’s job is usually to run checklists, communicate/operate the radio, check various indicators, and support the PF to fly the aircraft. The captain and first officer swap between these roles en route. The PM should NOT be inputting controls unless there is a good reason to do so, but for safety/redundancy, one side’s controls are never disabled unless a lockout/override is active.

Most airlines have a policy to cruise with the autopilot on, which keeps the aircraft on its plotted course at it’s cleared altitude. The time where “flying” comes into play most often is during takeoff and using various levels of ILS from just indications of glide slope to a full autoland.

While not fantastic, a cruising airbus will keep its current course and stay airborne if the pilots snooze off.


Charlie Victor Romeo was a very interesting watch for that cockpit fly-on-a-wall experience


A proper deadman's switch can't just be a button - you could weight it down, or just fall asleep on top of it. Trains commonly use a pedal you have to hold down halfway. Not sure this is really the best idea though, as pilots typically need both hands (and usually feet) free to actually, you know, control the plane.


A button press could be required, though.


If the pilots are controlling the plane, they are doing detectable actions and pre-empting the dead person switch.


Surely any one with 700 million users could just build their own?


I disagree completely. Facebook was just Myspace without the terrible UX. Google was just Yahoo but better. Tech businesses can easily move in over each other if there is a way to make it noticeably better.


Facebook did not start as a competitor to MySpace. It started as a niche social network for universities, and then eventually branched off to be a competitor to myspace. By the time it did, it had already positioned itself as a unique product. That's quite different than say, people upset with Reddit over the Apollo situation looking for a Reddit clone with a better API policy, or people who like Blue Sky because it's "Twitter without Elon Musk".


I think it's possible that some generous person determines a sequence of prompts that generate, say novels, and then pipes these prompts into a program causing thousands or even millions of wholly varied novels to be generated in the public domain. I imagine this is what the OP meant.


I've been changing my mind a lot on AI these past few weeks.

I don't think the price is what stops most people from reading books. People already have access to countless works they don't have time to read, adding a bunch of soulless ones to this seems like it won't change much.


As a (once avid) reader, the worrying part will be discovery. Why I was eight I could pick any book off the library shelf and it was interesting and enlightening. Today, the noise so outdrowns the signal that I have to rely on recommendations. Tomorrow, when both the books and the recommendations will be generated by bots outpacing human authors by orders of magnitude, I expect that quality new material will be impossible to find.

I pray that I am wrong.


Honestly, library books tend to be better than random stuff in Barnes and Noble because if it wasn't checked out, it probably would've already been scrubbed from the selection (libraries have limited space), so instead of just getting whatever books were published in the last 2 years, you get books that were published in the last 200 years, and only the more interesting ones. Additionally, the Dewey Decimal system, or its replacement (don't remember what it's called), sorts stuff by similar topic, so if you're already in a section that is interesting to you, any nearby random book also is likely interesting.

This is why I like still going to physical libraries. Also, lack of user-hostile interfaces.


Libraries have limited space, yet somehow have room for cruft like a 900 page garbage book on XML from 2001. :)


(Closed) Knowledge communities* -- will resurrect and undoubtedly there will be communities with a spiritual basis. Possibly a new age of Modern Midevalism awaits.

* think monks and manuscripts


Or maybe you'll just be able to talk to ChatGPT about what you like and get recommendations.


What can change is that people can get more of exactly what they like. In which case many might well put up with imperfect continuations, and the AI will have material to mimic.


same with art and code


Why would that make it less reversible? Honestly it's not like it was ever easy to reverse DNA damage. Reversing other kinds of damage might be harder, but unless you have more information it's not clear that it _must_ be.


If you have a skin cell that incorrectly differentiated into a mole, how do you reverse it?

You can't just fix the DNA, it must also figure out whether it should become a hair follicle or one of the many subtypes of cells that make up your skin layers. We know that this differentiation seems to be controlled by ion/electrical signals early in life.

So a key question is: Why does differentiation accuracy seem to degrade with aging, and is there anything we can do to stop it?

CRISPR is pretty good at fixing DNA, we definitely need to optimize our use of that tool but at least there's a path. We really don't have a clear path to fix the differentiation/epigenome problem.


It's theoretically more reversible, but dependent on identifying epigenetic factors that can practically be counteracted or at least lessened (and don't have significantly adverse side effects.)

In reality, it will probably just mean a bunch of snake oil 'epigenetic health supplements' on the shelves that don't actually do anything.


This seems to be Hinton's MO though. A few years back he ripped out convolutions for capsules and while he claims it's better and some people might claim it "has potential", no one really uses it for much because, as with this, the actual numerical performance is worse on the tests people care about (e.g. imagenet accuracy).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsule_neural_network


I mean yes, this should be the MO of a tenured professor, making large speculative bets, not hyper optimizing benchmarks


But some of those bets should be right, or else he'd be better spending his time and accumulated knowledge writing a historical monograph.


Specifically, tenure is to remove the pressure that "you'd better be right" so professors are free to take meandering tangents through the solution space that don't seem like they'll pay off immediately.

The failure mode of tenure is that the professor just rests on their past accomplishments and doesn't do anything. That's a risk the system takes. In this case though, Geoff Hinton is doing everything right: he's not only not sitting around doing nothing, he's actively trying to obsolete the paradigm he helped usher in, just in case there is a better option out there. I think that's admirable


The backpropagation paper was published in 1986.

It took >20 years for it to be right.

Maybe we ought to give this one some time?


Not sure what you mean by >20 years to be right. I built and trained a 3-layer back-propagating neural net to do OCR on an Apple 2 in 1989 based on that paper. Admittedly, just the 26 upper case characters. But it clearly worked better than the alternatives.


"everyone depends on their particular bolt, and we are all screwed."

I love clever puns.


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