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It seems like there are a lot of commenters claiming to be able to do the same thing who didn't read the abstract:

"...various indirect mechanisms possibly mediating this phenomenon were tested: accommodation, brightness, increases in arousal by increased mental effort. None of these behavioral tests could support an indirect strategy as the mode of action"


The effect of the nudge is definitely the main story here, but the redesigned summons form (Figure 1) seems like a pretty good example of the importance of communication design. While there's certainly still room for improvement, the new forms seem much easier to understand.


Anecdotally, this stereotype seems to exist in the United States as well.

When it comes to data, the 2016 National Household Education Survey by the National Center for Education Statistics shows that 51% of parents selected "A desire to provide religious instruction" as an "important" reason for homeschooling their children, and 67% selected "A desire to provide moral instruction" as an "important" reason for homeschooling [0, in bar plot form; 1, original data].

[0] https://responsiblehomeschooling.org/research/summaries/reas... [1] https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2017/2017102.pdf


"A desire to provide moral instruction"

"Don't do drugs." "Sex is great, but you need to wait until you're ready to handle it because it has serious emotional and physical consequences as well. If you do though, use a condom." "Don't treat people that way."

Its disingenuous that state run schools don't have their own moral instruction as well. Although I can't find it but I remember a post where a student got in an argument because the teacher failed them for saying ethics and morality were two different things and the teacher argued it was the same. So I don't exactly trust them to do it either. Ultimately it is up to the parents to teach kids their values, not the state's.

The parents have the most influence on a child's values anyway, short of removing them from the home, not much changes there.


> Its disingenuous that state run schools don't have their own moral instruction as well.

No one is saying otherwise. The survey says that parents have a desire to provide moral instruction.

> Although I can't find it but I remember a post where a student got in an argument because the teacher failed them for saying ethics and morality were two different things and the teacher argued it was the same. So I don't exactly trust them to do it either.

Why generalize from what seems to be a single anecdote?


Thanks for providing some numbers on this.


An interesting perspective summarized here [0] is that the bombings were not just unnecessary to end the war and were conducted as a show of force to the Soviets. They were conducted in an attempt to end the war ASAP, before a planned Soviet ground invasion of Japan so that the US wouldn't have to share control over post-war Japan with the Soviets.

[0] https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-reason-america-used-n...


^Ground invasion of China. Not sure if the Soviet navy was up for a significant assault on Japan at that time, but I'd guess no.


Yup. Post got flagged too. I assume because it's "political", but in my experience HN is very interested in civil liberties.





Buzzfeed has an investigative journalism arm[0] that its built over the last ~7 years. They were a 2018 Pulitzer finalist[1].

I assume their clickbait subsidizes their investigative journalism, a business model that gives me hope given the importance of investigative journalism. Unfortunately that hope is tempered by the recent round of layoffs.

[0] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/investigations [1] https://www.pulitzer.org/finalists/staff-buzzfeed-news


Oddly enough, the major reason I don't trust their investigative reporting was one of the articles that made them a 2018 Pulitzer finalist: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18947852 It was pretty much a conspiracy theory about Russian mind control chemicals disguised as a long-form article about the British police ignoring the supposed assassination of a scientist by the Russians.


How many times to they appear on this list? I mean... an article about journalistic dishonesty is titled Beyond Buzzfeed! [0]

[0] https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-w...


Very cool idea! Nice to see funding for non-traditional research models.

But I'm a little confused why you made this comment on an earlier HN post about Shannon Labs: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17675617


it was posted earlier, but never made it on the top 10 pages for reasons we couldn't figure out despite getting plenty of upvotes on /newest. To check if it was actually alive we posted a couple dummy comments after a while, and then abandoned the post.

(disclosure, I'm a mentor and the post was sent to a few mentors, which likely tripped some bot checker)


Because you also used a voting ring (next to astroturfing). Admire the hustle, though a bit too naughty.


A few of us think the project is very much worth upvoting! The bot checker should appreciate that :)


That's why I called it naughty and not blatant manipulation. Now if this were an ICO or a company looking for an easy flip in the overhyped AI market, it would be different.


Totally reasonable. I was more (be/a)mused than suspicious. I'm excited to see what gets funded!


That's not confusing :)

It looks like the founder was just trying to kick off discussion without being explicit about her involvement. The submitter (Aaron Lin) is also part of the organization.

In the scheme of things, I give them a pass. Raising attention for an initiative like this can be challenging. It's not actually dishonest.


" It's not actually dishonest."

dishonest - Intended to mislead or cheat.

Raising any initiative with multiples of free 100k carrots is super easy. Why do they have to resort to all other tactics?


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