Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | fletom's commentslogin

Politics is not a game or a religious belief. It is a literal matter of life and death for millions of people who have very little power. (Hint: not tech workers.)


Politics is the result of ethical values, which according to quite a lot of philosophy is a form of belief. Religion can and in many place do play a major role in forming such ethical values, which is partial reason why religion has so close connection in forming politics.

Ethical values impacts literal matter of life and death for millions of people. This is true. Ethical values differs also from people to people and is a deeply aspect of personal identity. As such, challenging coworkers on a political level also means challenging coworkers personal identity, and that just something which the workplace is poorly designed for.


You have the right to advocate for these people. You do not have the right to use the tech industry as your personal tool for doing so or to shame people who have other priorities.


But again, these two things are connected. IBM is in the tech industry, wouldn't you say? It had ties with the Nazi regime during the Holocaust [0], taking advantage of the crimes of Germany for profit. There were many companies at the time which did so.

Your work is directly linked with exploitation and oppression of people around the world, in almost every industry. The tech industry is directly linked to child slavery in the Congo, mining Cobalt for hardware. And tech players have a big role in worker's rights in the US too, think about Uber drivers. There's every reason why tech workers should use their united power to do something about these issues.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust


Everything is connected. Society is a fabric. You're not going to win me over to your side by talking constantly about how we're all guilty because we're all connected or nonsense like that. The tech industry and the people working in it have no special responsibility to work toward social causes and I'm going to oppose any attempts to hijack it.


Can you explain who and what you mean by this?


This isn't about the interests of tech workers, it's about our responsibility to society as a group of people who have been handed a lot of power. In a world with so much inequality and suffering, don't you think that's important?


I disagree with the premise that inequality is a bad thing, other than practicing a trade my goals are probably not your goals.


Are you equating a firearm registration system with a fascist database of a minority religion?


Both will be used to deprive people of their rights.


It sounds to me like your perspective may be skewed by having watched too many Hollywood action movies.


Or read too many HN stories about Russian agents of influence.


You can open your eyes but not look at the phone.


> It's worth noting that antirez has, as is usual for him, dealt with this issue wonderfully by making a call without downplaying the importance of the problem.

He was doing okay until he wrote that everyone is a slave because having to follow "politically correct rules" is itself a form of slavery.


lol. i hadn't seen that ;_;


What do you mean? Are you implying that you make sure you're never alone with women in order to avoid sexually harassing them?


by "agenda" do you mean the agenda of exposing sexism at Uber? because that's what the whole post is about.

and why exactly would it make you doubt her credibility?


are you openly admitting that the AWS service status page runs on AWS? because that is far more embarrassing than this downtime ever could be


That's piling on, and rudely at that. Please don't be rude on HN.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13756997 and marked it off-topic.


maybe just the image icon? idk...


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: