So it's been awhile but the best and simplest way I think is use an access point. I don't want my wireless gear doing routing. From a logic stand point they acts as wireless "bridge" to the physical network, and nothing more. DHCP, etc. stay handled in one place for the entire network, back on the physical router.

I did this back when, just using a 100mbit NIC express card.

Ran openbsd for a few years like that, the base OS included everything needed. I recall it used 24MB of ram and closer to 30MB if ssh'd in. It was very handy to have a local login when playing with firewall rules.

Podman is a viable option. I'm not sure how it works but I was able to run Alpine and Debian containers by setting a few system flags.

That’s very good to know. Thanks!

I just installed FreeBSD 15 on a T480 that also runs Debian13. Do other people notice that FreeBSD has longer battery life? I'm still looking into this.

You don't want more of this on Hacker News?

I don't want more of this on Hacker News. I laughed because it was like ricklolling - but I am kind of curious what was the value so many people found in this article.

Wow!

> It's not simple enough for mainstream, and UI is odd.

It's exactly the same UI as Stock Android on a Google Pixel. If you find GrapheneOS' UI odd, then Android is just not for you, I guess?

This response lacks thought and is argumentative.

The UI is not the same nor are the app defaults. Combined they create a different UX from stock Android.

The default graphene App Store, and expected apps found there are different than Google Play or what you'd find on Google Play.

The default permissions of each app are restrictive, most notable when you start mixing App Stores.

F-Droid culture, and the app options, are their own thing.

Vanadium, the graphene messaging app, the lack of forced updates and nag buttons.

Exploit protection compat mode for banking apps.

Motorola isn't selling to you or the other person that responded. For that market graphene will have an unexpected learning curve.

I don't know how to answer to this, other than you seemingly don't know Android so much.

Everything you describe here is normal on all Android (e.g. differences of UI or differences of default apps). F-Droid has nothing to do with GrapheneOS.

> Exploit protection compat mode for banking apps.

This is the only caveat: some (not all) banking apps are annoying.

> I'm sure the enthusiasm is appreciated but Graphene is very different even from stock Android.

I'm daily driving a Pixel 9a with GrapheneOS and I strongly disagree, at least from an ordinary usage perspective. Yes, you can make it very different (by not installing Google Play), but with the sandboxed Google Play it's exceedingly rare for me to notice any differences; it feels very close to any other stock-ish Android. The only big differences were RCS chats failing w/ T-Mobile (but that's been fixed) and some apps being mean about Play Integrity or whatever (but that's gonna be true of any custom ROM, even if it's entirely unmodified from AOSP).

I was watching Bladerunner last night, specifically the part where Ford is zooming in on the photograph using voice commands.

Above the display is an amber horizontal bar that changes in sync with the activity on the display and my first thought was, "Finally they found a use for the Mac Touch Bar!"

The Touch Bar has so many uses in Linux I can't wait for it to work.

My favorite feature of the Touch Bar was that, if memory serves well, force push was right next to cancel in one of the IDEs, can't recall if Xcode or Intellij.

I think they are talking about git force push, not 3D push, but yeah, I liked the concept of 3D Touch too

The issue was discoverability.

If your design language is “flat as we can make it” how can you visualise a third dimension? You have to already know which things are 3D touch ready.

I blame the software refresh of Apple after the 5-series UI language was removed. Minimal mechanical design with rich complex software is a beautiful contrast that strengthens how both feel.

Yeah it could have been useful but I feel like they nerfed it from the start. Still wasn’t a big fan.

I was hoping it was a tease for a fully software defined haptic feedback based keyboard. There’s the obvious usefulness and coolness of that, and then the fact that you could make a laptop closer to the sealed clean-ability of a phone. Probably not quite submersible/waterproof due to ports and fans but able to survive a spill and be cleaned well.

100% agree. They nerfed it hard and so we just politely ignored it until we no longer even knew it was there.

Is WoW still around? Did it fall off? All of a sudden people just stopped talking about it.

There's a small airbnb outfit near the Houston airport that rents for 12 hours at a time with free ride to and from the airport. They cater to the layover crowd. It's very economical. I've not seen it elsewhere.