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As an engineer currently migrating decades old paper records to an entry level ERP, this would be an amazing killer feature that would blow my non-engineer co-workers away.

Basic version control on product data without shelling out for a massive overkill PDM/ERP/CAD integration would make me pant with hot joy.


I currently source a number of castings in bainite for ground engaging agricultural parts and it is what I would call semi-weldable - you wouldn't rely on a structural mig weld but I've had success with both tig welding and silver solder for attaching other parts with non-structural joins.

The big win for me is the parts can be air quenched - the slower cooling eliminates one of the biggest rejection flaws, straightness


If I'm understanding you correctly, you touch on the point that I (probably badly) tried to make - by slowly cooling it during heat treatment, you can post-weld treat it to remedy issues that the HAZ introduces. I'll try to explain it again because I've probably also confused others.

For example, when I deal with the castings I procure, we mandate that the supplier either repairs them prior to the heat treatment stage or they must be fully heat treated again after weld repairs. This helps resolve the otherwise brittle HAZ. You can do this, because castings are usually quench-and-tempered, which is a relatively slow process.

Welding stuff like Bis, Weldox, etc. requires both pre- and post- heat treating in order to let the weld form and also address the HAZ properly afterwards to restore its strength. You can do this because the processes to heat treat it are traditional and relatively slow. This lets you get (somewhat reduced compared to the parent metal) structurally sound levels of strength out of the weld locality. Because of it, Weldox and Bis both see widespread use in truck bodies, crane arm trusses, etc.

This is in constrast to flash bainite, which relies on it being a very fast process. By virtue of it being a fast, tailor-made process you can't just do it to a complex geometry. By welding it, you dump heat into the weld which then air-cools slowly as the weld cools, completely running counter to the flash bainite process that is necessary to produce the strength. That's why you see a halving in UTS in the mil report I linked in source 3 of my first post - you simply can't recover from the slower heat-and-cool process without doing the whole treatment again, and you can only do that on easy geometries (it seems).

As said, if I understand what you're saying we're essentially saying the same thing, but I think I phrased it quite badly in my post. Not that you disagree with me, but it just made me realise that I don't think I worded it well and wanted to clarify.


Yep we are in 100% agreement. To rectify my own lack of clarity, the sort of parts I am talking about are largely prismatic with a handful of holes and pockets, or for the more complex geometry, not more than around 300x300x300 in total envelope, so definitely not large.

For reference, bainite has completely replaced 8630 in all ranges of quenching and tempering as a material for us, and I'm currently in the process of phasing out most of our Hardox parts in lieu of bainite as well. Haven't used Bisalloy plate for years due to its even-worse-than-expected machinability.


Also as a curiosity I've successfully heat treated bainite stock that was mistakenly supplied raw with a butane torch, an infrared thermometer and a water bath. The end result was slightly softer and slightly tougher than the parts heat treated at the foundry at time of casting.

Basically it is a fantastic material and I want to marry it.


Happy to see people working with agriculture hanging around here!


>Keyline ploughs

I actually work as an engineer/designer for a small business based in Queensland who build ploughs, including non-inversion deep rippers (somewhat in competition with Yeoman). We have in the last ~8 months sold a heap of rippers into WA in partnership with a local manufacturer, targeting clay pan breakup, pH remediation, etc. with a lot of success. It's interesting the way deep tillage and other mechanical soil management ideas are experiencing something of a renaissance out west at the moment.


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