AI generated music has started to ruin most music on YouTube for me. My feed is starting to get crammed with artists and DJ sets of things like "1 Hour of Cowboy Western Songs to Listen to While Traveling Through the Frontier".

Is it real music? Probably not because the thumbnail is plastered with Pepe memes and other rubbish. We starting to get to the point where music is like Low-background steel - as in it existed before the advent of AI slop.

And before someone asks "bUt iT dOeSn'T mAtTeR hOw iT's mAdE, iT's aLl aBuOt wHaT tHe eNd rEsUlT iS"

Yes, it does matter to me. Making art to me is about all the small decisions taken along the way to arrive at the final piece. When it hasn't gone through that process then I feel nothing when I listen or view it. Actually, I don't feel nothing, I feel deceived.

I have no clue why you were getting voted down, but I agree. AI generated music isn't art. There's no soul in that, no experience.

Legitimately curious, do you have some examples of great AI music ?

After getting bombarded with it in public spaces (namely cafés), I’ve come to see it as a worse copyright-free replacement for muzak. I’ve even subconsciously begun avoiding these places. When my brain randomly decides it wants to pay attention to the music, the whole shtick sounds grating in an uncanny valley kind of way that’s almost impossible to un-hear.

Trying Lyria 2 after that ordeal might’ve also amplified my bias against it, as everything I prompted ended up sounding like a robotic top 50 pastiche.

Maybe there’s a parallel to made with LLM prose here ?

(disclaimer: while not a musician I do enjoy listening to human-made less-mainstream music)

I thought this one was pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr3Pz_a0oIs

I don’t think it holds up beyond passive listening for me, the violins sound quite off and break the illusion from the get go. But different strokes for different folks

Another opposing viewpoint: there is already so much human made music on YouTube you already had “effectively infinite free entertainment”.

You are paying money to YouTube (or watching ads) for work nobody put any effort into. I would rather pay a human artist.

The bottleneck has not been the amount of music. You had effectively infinite music before

So, when you have infinite music, you then have to look to qualitative differentiating factors. Like, say, the artist themselves. And if they're AI.

I can't imagine music as just its surface product. It would feel so much emptier without the added subtext of the artist and creation.

Exactly what I thought of as well

The social benefit is that it gives a controlled outlet for the need to gamble when managed by the government.

Which weirdly enough has made Soundcloud one of my primary sources for finding music I enjoy, via DJ sets.

Thank you for taking the time to write this out. I've long since given up having any debate with people on these subjects so it's heartening to see some still flying the flag.

One video in that archive is about a family day out to and island by ferry. You'd basically arrive in the morning, climb to the top of the hill on the island, have lunch and meet the ferry in the afternoon. The first thing that strikes you is that no-one is fat. The second that everyone is fit enough to make it to the top of the hill regardless of age.

My flow is the AI writes most of the code, I closely review, question and tweak everything that comes out. My commits are about the same size as they were. Don't vibe code or one shot features.

Congrats on your upgrade from bogan to neuvo-bogan ;)

(I kid, I also drive a byd, ATTO though rather than shark)

Thank you! I'm in WA, so in some respects if I'm not driving a landie or hilux my bogan creds are still somewhat lacking, but at least I'm looking down on Ranger drivers now lol.

This right here is my view on the future as well. Will the AI write the entire feature in one go? No. Will the AI be involved in writing a large proportion of the code that will be carefully studied and adjusted by a human before being used? Absolutely yes.

This cyborg process is exactly how we're using AI in our organisation as well. The human in the loop understands the full context of what the feature is and what we're trying to achieve.

Hyperloop