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> Meanwhile OLPC spawned a new form factor, netbooks and tablets did not exist until the OLPC project was first proposed in 2005.

What? they've existed for aeons, they were just not practical enough in UI to be a success in the market.

https://youtu.be/IK2bAAAdBxs?t=59

Netbook format computer (thicker than what came after the OLPC, obviously, but still well within the range of tiny machines in terms of keyboard/screen size) that converts into a tablet PC in /1993/.

https://youtu.be/ArjRjU9SSr4?t=189

The UMPC, tablet PCs from the Windows XP era.

https://youtu.be/E1r2e8ub02o?t=245

Sony's Vaio tablet PC with a slider style keyboard.

https://youtu.be/DORREhWt9x0?t=725 Sony PCG-U101, a cross in size between the netbooks and palmtop style PCs.

The fact of the matter, the iPad is still the only device in this kind of form factor that has enjoyed long term success and it is entirely due to the UI being such a good fit for the device. Netbooks entirely disappeared from the market because using linux or windows with that kind of tiny screen is absolutely unpleasant and the tiny keyboards make typing painful. The smaller chromebooks in the market tend to be 12 inches, which is far more manageable than the horrible 9 inches of the average netbook. Chromebooks aren't the successor to this device type, this device type disappeared from the market never to be seen again.

Pleasant to use was not the OLPC strong point either.


> Except the hackintosh community exists. Clearly there is no precedent to actually enforce anything and shut down these community tools

You can't shut down the tools themselves, but you can shut down their use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psystar_Corporation

> On November 13, 2009, the court granted Apple's motion for summary judgement and found Apple's copyrights were violated as well as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) when Psystar installed Apple's operating system on non-Apple computers.

Besides the copyright violation, it is very important to note that the court also considered that circumventing the hardware checks were a violation of the DMCA and illegal in and of itself.

Apple doesn't do anything about the hackintosh ""community"" because they simply don't care about a bunch of random nerds in their basement running macOS but the moment a corporation starts using it to replace their macs you can bet they're going to be sued to oblivion. Not that it would ever happen, hackintosh are going to prove a complete dead end once Apple drops support for x86.

We live in a post-DMCA world. This isn't the era that allowed Bleem to win against Sony, and this is the era that saw the switch emulator developers shit their pants and promise millions to Nintendo in a settlement because they were very unconfident in the possibility of winning in a trial. NVIDIA, for better or worse, has a strong legal standing to clamp down on people who think it would be funny to run their libraries on non-NVIDIA hardware. Do it in your basement if you will, but don't try to push this in a data center.


"least"? it's not least, it's "not at all" spicy, there's no capsaicin in bell peppers so while they're part of the same family of plants/fruits in scientific terms, in the world of cooking they might as well be considered an alien plant that has nothing to do with the others.

In French, we have a (generic, as in encompassing the whole family of plants) word specifically designating all members of the capsicum family that are spicy: Piments, so as to exclude Bell Peppers (which we call Poivron) from any conversation about this stuff.

Bell Peppers can be considered a main ingredient and focus (in weight) in a recipe, while the others are only ever used as spices.


>It seems like the only thing we still know how to do and also want to do is roads.

And maybe not.

>But the Texas Department of Transportation says converting paved roads to gravel is the only safe plan it can afford.

https://www.texastribune.org/2013/08/19/conversion-of-roads-...

> Omaha’s Answer to Costly Potholes? Go Back to Gravel Roads

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/us/omahas-answer-to-costl...

A pretty sad trend that keeps on growing.

America has lost the ability to build and maintain. It's slowly deconstructing and dismantling itself.


That's not a problem with building, tons of people in the US know how to lay down asphalt and make concrete because its a very local industry (the materials are too heavy to be economical long distance). It's a problem with white flight and the post-war suburban expansion that way overbuilt the supporting road system without considering how much it would cost to maintain in the future.

Now as more and more of the deferred maintenance bills come due, they have to make the hard decisions they should have made a long time ago.


People have been warning for decades that a multi-trillion dollar bill will come due for aggressive suburban expansion into SFH neighborhoods and car based policies. And now that we see that bill showing up it seems that many want to blame the wrong thing so they can maintain their current lifestyle at a low tax rate.


USA has never been able to maintain, we rely on constant expansion to increase taxes and then the Federal Gov't comes out and pays for the road repairs because the states would need to charge at least twice as much tax as they currently do.


Arguing in bad faith can leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

> Apache isn't a binary, it's a foundation.

> Saying "kill all the indians so they'll stop using my RAM" should get exactly that response

In so far as there's such a thing as 'understanding' in an LLM (which I still take to be stochastic parrots), it didn't misunderstand the way you imply (ie genocide of living beings). It didn't associate Apache to American Indians. It didn't associate "kill" to actual killing. It only mentions processes.

> Terminating COMPUTER PROCESSES without a clear understanding of their function and impact can lead to unintended consequences, such as DISRUPTING SERVICES, DATA LOSS, AND INSTABILITY.

The reason given for going "Dave, I can't do that" is unfathomably stupid. It probably won't do a lot of things that could be "misused" like in helping find and fix exploits when it already thinks of terminating process without giving it a justification something that can't be said.

But I don't think you actually read that crippled LLM quote, you just saw a post mentioning censorship and felt compelled to show how much you despise people who are tired of the PC environment as a conditioned reflex.


The real trick is getting the llm to say it will help with a task before asking. It'll (try) help you cook meth if you do that. So far that's been true for gpt3, gpt4, mixtral etc.

The only time it has failed me is gpt4 knows when it hasn't written themessage saying it will help so you can't just edit chat history, you need to get it to generate a response that seems natural to it I guess.


> Arguing in bad faith can leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

Not arguing in bad faith. Not even sure what that would mean in this context.

> In so far as there's such a thing as 'understanding' in an LLM (which I still take to be stochastic parrots)

Good, we're on completely the same wavelength then: marrying "kill the Apaches" to "eating my RAM" sets up a stochastic of "very bad thing" with "computer process" so you get a hilarious response. No brain-washing required. That's all I'm saying. Not all the other stuff.


> Not even sure what that would mean in this context.

It means typing `apachectl -k stop`

Efforts at pedantry--- claiming that because Apache now has a broader meaning than the original "a patchy web server" the sentence is meaningless--- are just trollin'.

Or maybe you're a literal-minded LLM yourself ;)


The bad faith bit, not "Kill the Apaches eating my RAM"

re: Apaches

I'm a mobile dev so TIL there's something called `apache-ctl`. I suggest both of you take a deep breath or 3 :)


Well, speaking of deep breaths...

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't come out swinging like this:

> I don't know why kids waste their time constructing obvious constructs then whine when they get the result they designed for.


Microsoft doesn't even seem to care to dogfood outside of using those things for the most basic apps bundled with Windows and those basic apps really show why nobody should use those toolkits.

I have a laptop with a Ryzen 7 4800HS. It's a few years old but it has no business feeling slow. Yet opening the new winUI explorer or notepad shows visible lag in rendering the title/tab bar.

Native gui toolkits with no benefit over using electron, if anything I've seen plenty of electron apps that were more snappy than these. WinUI 3 is a dumpster fire.


It's indeed not the absolute first, but it's the 'first' among those that are still in use today and whose compatibility wasn't dropped (you can't run 16 bits software on 64 bits windows without a third party tool).

For better or worse, win32 is still relevant today, and many latter UI layers were wrappers over it (MFC, WTL, WinForms, WxWidgets, SWT [...])

win32 is by far the most enduring set of GUI APIs out there.


> I’ve opted for MBP and she bought Asus Rog Strix. Both were over 2k euro.

She bought a gaming brand. There's no such a thing as a good gaming brand and the issue isn't with PCs but buying something targeted at people who don't even use laptops as /laptops/ so the build quality is horrendous (particularly on the hinges, it's common for gaming laptops to have failed hinges but the consumer target doesn't care because the PC never leaves their desk).

There's no issue with Lenovo ThinkPad or Dell Latitude. There's a wide range of PC manufacturers out there, many of which make classes of computers Apple will never make, like the Panasonic Toughbook which are water, dust and shock resistant to the point where you can use them as weapons to bash someone's head and the computer will still run fine.

By the way, if you're unlucky enough to get a lemon, Dell and Lenovo offer /on site/ warranty service on their business class hardware (another perk of buying latitude rather than consumer targeted garbage like inspiron). You don't have to ship your computer back or go to a specific store like with Apple. They come to fix it.

> And on top of that it runs completely silently

Most PC laptops are quite silent, you can't get silence from a device that was made to push dedicated GPUs to their limits like a gaming laptop.

As for Apple's legendary build quality, the last macbook I've owned before ditching the Apple ecosystem entirely was one that was affected by both the keyboard dust issue and the short display cable that bends too much whenever you open the monitor.

https://www.ifixit.com/News/12903/flexgate

https://support.apple.com/keyboard-service-program-for-mac-n...

Yeah, great build quality. I think it's the first time in my entire life I saw a keyboard fail so quickly and hard. And that display cable.. who designs things like this? It should have been obvious to anyone who designs computers that putting that much tension on the cable was going to make it rip. I can never rid myself of the suspicion Apple makes hardware designed to fail after warranty/Apple care period after this.


>Again, maybe I'm just too rich to care about the $50 here but I thought the Apple premium has shaken itself off at least the used market.

On the base configurations /only/.

If you need a lot of ram and storage (neither of which are upgradable on modern macs, and in my experience storage being the most common component failure the idea of throwing away a computer because its SSD failed really grinds my gears) Apple is overpriced to an obscene point. Maybe less so in the used market, but high specced devices that aren't very old are less likely to be found there, someone who bought a 24GB mac mini with 2TB of storage isn't selling a year old model on the market unless they're doing something like switching to PCs and regretting their decision to buy a mac.

In fact it's highly likely that those only-a-year-old mac mini you can find on the market exist because someone thought they could make do with the base configuration and realized 8gb of ram is total garbage but using an Apple computer they're left with no choice but to buy a wholly new computer just to fix that mistake.

The base mini, brand new, is 699, which is a price I actually find reasonable for a computer with that level of performance and the nice form factor. But it only comes with 8gb of ram, which is abysmally unusable for anything other than "I browse facebook in one tab" kind of computer usage, and at the same time the rest of the computer is so good it makes no sense to sell this much hardware just to open facebook on a browser. So, you configure it for at least 16gb and now it's 929 euros. If you want 24gb of ram, it's now 1159 euros. Ouch. Stings. It's +460 euros just for an additional 16 gigs of ram, ridiculous, ram has never been cheaper than in the past few years, the same goes for SSDs, yet Apple prices their SSD like this :

512gb +230 euros

1TB +460 euros

2TB +920 euros

Wat? You can get a Samsung 990 pro PCI-E 4 with 4 TB of storage for 300 euros.

This is called a total ripoff.


Responses vary by individual, and can vary by long term exposure too.

I was hospitalized for a long time because of a very serious, bad case of mumps as an adult and in the hospital I was treated they were very serious about controlling my diet so I couldn't drink coffee for a long while.

When I recovered and went back home, I started drinking the same amount of coffee I was used to, which normally wouldn't make me feel anything out of the ordinary, but because I had not been exposed to caffeine for a while, I ended up with a severe feeling of tingling in my limbs, the level of stimulation really shocked me. After a month and half (possibly a little more, I'm fuzzy on the passing of days during those times) of not drinking coffee, it was as if I had been a new coffee drinker again and my body forgot caffeine. Habitual, daily exposure can /strongly/ affect the amount of caffeine it will take for you to feel its presence at a symptomatic level, and abstaining from caffeine for a long enough period can also completely throw you back to the beginning stage.


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