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The liberty argument flows both directions. You can't deprive liberty of unborn children.


It’s not a child or person until it’s born alive. Up until birth a fetus is a parasitic organism. If unwanted then the fetus is trespassing in the host body. If unwanted the parasite is robbing from the host. By these inconvertible truths if the fetus must be born then it must be tried for trespassing, battery, and theft and the counter party to conception must be held equally liable. Thus, the unwanted parasite must be terminated in order to preserve the rights of the host as plainly protected by the ninth, tenth, thirteenth and fourteenth amendments.


> It’s not a child or person until it’s born alive. Up until birth a fetus is a parasitic organism.

And many many many people disagree with that idea. Denying that people disagree with that distorts your picture of the matter.

So many on the left view this as some kind of patriarchal ruling, but in my experience it's conservative women who are more against abortion than conservative men.


Your lack of a response to the majority of my comment could be construed as you arguing in bad faith. The distortion here is of your own.

People are free to disagree with the personal choices free citizens make. People are not free to impose their beliefs on others and force them to carry or birth a parasite through coercion or force. Any conversation about forcing women to birth anything that does not include radical changes to:

healthcare, social safety net, the best parental leave laws in the world, wide carve outs for incest, rape, medical problems, birth defects, litter reduction, to name a few things

is a blatant exposition of the moral bankruptcy of the forced birthers seeking to impose their ideals on others through governmental violence. I haven’t met a forced birther yet that’s thought through all the complications of their grand scheme and come out the other side still a forced birther. Typically they just get mad and devolve into all sorts of fallacious statements, sometimes they storm off, and I’ve walked a few level headed people through enough of the realities of forced birth for them to autonomously realize that such laws cause so much suffering and cost so much in real economic and tax dollar terms that forced birth is regressive and will make the states it takes effect in worse places in all important measures like: infant mortality, student test scores, parental homicide, violent crime, etc— because the research on these topics is unanimous. Access to contraception whether condoms or third trimester abortions is an essential right to maintaining and strengthening a modern society. Anyone that doesn’t want to live in modern society is free to go build an island and reinvent the conservative turned libertarian ascent into liberalism wheel.


Your continued use of the word parasite to describe a living human being is pretty disgusting so I'm not going to continue to talk to you.


You really should check your ideological emotions at the door if you want to be taken seriously. I have no alternative but to accept your concession that parasite is a valid term for an unwanted pregnancy and that your dissenting arguments lack intellectual rigor. If they had any you’d have used them instead of dismissing me for imaginary reasons that only make sense to someone that adheres to a regressive belief system that’s perverted older belief systems from multiple millennia ago that considers unborn fetuses of incestual rape by religious leaders to be sacrosanct. To be clear, the only significant groups opposing abortion are Christian by filling or membership percentiles.:1

The fact that you can’t appreciate a minuscule difference in terminology, and the pointed intent, is all I need to know that you wouldn’t be arguing in good faith. demanding anyone name parasites children is nothing more than a limp wristed attempt at controlling the language used for the discussion as a propagandistic method to be used after a technical (read: pedantic on the level of grade 6 debate club) victory or worse, a legal win due to the erosion of the church state divide which is a flagrant violation of the constitution. I am guaranteed my right to abort as many parasites as I want by my adherence to Satanism as you must bring to term despite crippling defects due to incestuous rape due to your obviously strict adherence to your religion that considers unviable parasites a child. So please tell me about how America cares for children with severe birth defects sacrificed to the care of the state are cared for and how the regressive religions against abortion get the funding to guarantee every abandoned child a life equivalent to the American median. I’ll wait longer than I should because these statistics are impossible to provide because the GOP stops legislating for parasite rights as soon as they’re birthed. I’m also waiting for these organizations to give up their tax exempt status due to their flagrant political meddling.




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