I don’t feel like my comment was anywhere near as strong as your characterization, but okay, I guess I did allow my feelings to show a little. Mostly I was honestly asking for the parent comment to back itself up with some actual evidence or examples. Do you feel any of my questions were unreasonable, and can you point to which ones?
The parent comment is only 100% correct in the sense that it’s someone’s opinion, so there’s nothing much to argue. Whether it’s correct is less important than whether it’s moving the conversation in a constructive direction. The irony of saying that most generative art is unoriginal is that comment has been made a million times before, it’s a fairly un-original thing to say.
Nobody said this art needed to be interesting to the public, that “requirement“ in the context of this conversation is a straw man. It had enough HN interest to hit the front page of HN, so it is by definition interesting enough to be posted here.
Furthermore, when people show work on HN, it sucks to have unsubstantive blanket comments that the genre is not worth considering because it’s full of junk. I don’t know Mike Bostock personally, but he’s written the widely used D3.js library and has done professional info art for the New York Times. It seems quite uninformed to reply to a posting of a gallery of his work with insults about “fridge art” and “doesn’t require any obvious imagination”.
> No nerd can disrupt that style by transferring Munich on Van Gogh through a neural net.
Did you look at the gallery posted at the top? There are no neural nets here. You’re arguing about something unrelated to this post.
> It is just silly... or private, if you want, just a game
Says who? You’re complaining about my comment while dismissing the efforts and interests of the people posted in the article here. Maybe you don’t realize how much of an attack yours and @TheOtherHobbes’ comments might seem to the people who’s work is in the gallery linked here, or to the people who study & practice art.
The parent comment is only 100% correct in the sense that it’s someone’s opinion, so there’s nothing much to argue. Whether it’s correct is less important than whether it’s moving the conversation in a constructive direction. The irony of saying that most generative art is unoriginal is that comment has been made a million times before, it’s a fairly un-original thing to say.
Nobody said this art needed to be interesting to the public, that “requirement“ in the context of this conversation is a straw man. It had enough HN interest to hit the front page of HN, so it is by definition interesting enough to be posted here.
Furthermore, when people show work on HN, it sucks to have unsubstantive blanket comments that the genre is not worth considering because it’s full of junk. I don’t know Mike Bostock personally, but he’s written the widely used D3.js library and has done professional info art for the New York Times. It seems quite uninformed to reply to a posting of a gallery of his work with insults about “fridge art” and “doesn’t require any obvious imagination”.
> No nerd can disrupt that style by transferring Munich on Van Gogh through a neural net.
Did you look at the gallery posted at the top? There are no neural nets here. You’re arguing about something unrelated to this post.
> It is just silly... or private, if you want, just a game
Says who? You’re complaining about my comment while dismissing the efforts and interests of the people posted in the article here. Maybe you don’t realize how much of an attack yours and @TheOtherHobbes’ comments might seem to the people who’s work is in the gallery linked here, or to the people who study & practice art.